Stein believes the U.S is being threatening to Russia in a lot of ways
JILL STEIN: The latest nuclear arms race was actually triggered by Barack Obama who decided to engage a whole new movement, a trillion dollars of new nuclear weapons and new modes of delivery. And Hillary Clinton has certainly done her part here in demonizing Russia and China and helping to create, through her own Secretary of State office, the overthrow of a democratically elected leader in Ukraine and sort of pushing the envelope to create confrontation around Russia and confrontation with China.
ALAN CHARTOCK: Now let me just interject for one second and ask you this just for clarification. Donald Trump said he thought that Putin was a good guy, you say someone is guilty of demonizing Putin. Seems to me Putin has plenty to answer for.
STEIN: Oh he sure does. But on the other hand he is not threatening vital U.S interests. We on the other hand have surrounded him with missiles and nuclear weapons. So this is the Cuban Missile Crisis on steroids going on right now surrounding Russia.
CHARTOCK: No, that was the resolution of the Cuban Missile Crisis and (unintelligible)
STEIN: Well in fact we said we would take the missiles out of Turkey, which we did, but they’re now back again. So, the missiles are back. And yes, that’s not very recent history but what is very recent is the new ballistic missiles. So there’s a whole new battery of ballistic missiles that are around Russia, which Russia regards as extremely terrifying. And if they were doing this to us then yes absolutely we would say Russia is being aggressive here but the conflict with Russia right now is about who controls Ukraine and that’s a very murky argument. But we promised, remember? We promised Gorbachev when East Germany was reunified and admitted into NATO we weren’t going to move one inch to the East, but we’ve moved plenty to the East and we’ve basically been absorbing members of the Warsaw Pact into NATO. So we are threatening Russia in lots of ways.
CHARTOCK: Wait, wait, wait let me get this straight Jill. The countries as we move East that have either been applying for or have gotten into NATO are better off, and I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but better off because they’re in the Russian access?
STEIN: Well, they’re not in the Russian access. And I think that…the point is this is a complex issue. And I’m not saying Russia’s the good guys and we’re the bad guys by no means. This is a complex issue and the point is we don’t want to just be putting them in a box and making them our big enemy. You know why they are our big enemy? Because our weapons industry needs to justify taking up 54 percent of our discretionary budget for the military, much of which goes into these outmoded, cold war weapons systems. So our war profiteers who contribute plenty of money to the democratic and republican parties and to Hillary Clinton’s campaign, they need an enemy. So I don’t mean to divert our conversation to that but I want to point out that things are not looking so good under Hillary Clinton. And that we’ve sort of created a scenario that is moving us towards war. We need to have discussions here and we need not to be creating a marketing strategy here for the weapons industry. That’s too much what our foreign policy has been about.